Windows 8
A3
I hear it's bad (like butt-sauce) but I've noticed some of you are using it. What are your thoughts?
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I'm using it. It left a really good impression when I was using the trial version. The metrosexual menu is a lot nicer than the obsolete old start menu.
Switching from 7 to 8 was also really easy.
And it looks nice.
Smalls
I hate it... For now. It could be a good OS after they iron out all of the issues, but as of right now I hate it. There are a lot of things they did that makes me scream "Why did they do this?"

What are my main issues?
- Getting to the advanced recovery options menu to get to Safe Mode is a pain to get to
- Bluescreen dump files are overwritten after every new bluescreen
- Bluescreen dump files aren't in the same place (Not a real huge issue, but using Bluescreen view is a pain)
- The Metro menu is very clunky to get around. It's a cluttered mess.
- A lockscreen? Really?
- It has some really bad compatibility problems (For example, Games for Windows Live didn't work when I tested it)
- Bluescreens rarely give any important info when they come up.
- The learning curve is surprisingly difficult. I've had people who upgraded to Win8 or bought a Win8 laptop have had some trouble navigating around and figuring out how to do stuff.

Now, there are some good things it has. I really do like the desktop theme. It looks really sleek and it just looks a lot nicer to me. Also, when it does work, performance is really great. Overall though, the bad outweighs the good. I got it for free, but I still have to complain because it's just not that good to me.

Is it something you should buy now? No. I think it's a mess. Someone may think otherwise, but with what I work with I just can't stand it. I work in my university's IT department working on student laptops and we've had a lot of issues with Windows 8 on campus.
Ic100
Windows Server 2012 (basically 8 but without the BS) is pretty great.
Ml_noname
Smalls said:
- A lockscreen? Really?
- It has some really bad compatibility problems (For example, Games for Windows Live didn't work when I tested it)


The lockscreen, as silly as it is on a desktop, is essentially your welcome screen anyway. No real difference.

Last I checked, GFWL is defunct. I see this screen when I run the actual program, but who ever did that in the first place? Games that use it still have it pop-up in game, but it's been no issue with DiRT 3.

All that aside, I just go straight to the desktop like always; just like I did in Windows 7. I use the Start screen exactly as I did the Start menu: press Windows key, search for something, launch (That might sound familiar to Spotlight users on OS X too).

Live tiles are neat, I suppose. But it's not like I have the start screen constantly open... I mean come on, it's a desktop. I'm doing stuff.
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Smalls said:

- The Metro menu is very clunky to get around. It's a cluttered mess.
- It has some really bad compatibility problems (For example, Games for Windows Live didn't work when I tested it)


It's a menu only as cluttered as you make it.
And my GFWL works fine. Been playing Dark Souls.
Smalls
Metal_Link said:

that lockscreen, as silly as it is on a desktop, is essentially your welcome screen anyway. No real difference.

Last I checked, GFWL is defunct. I see this screen when I run the actual program, but who ever did that in the first place? Games that use it still have it pop-up in game, but it's been no issue with DiRT 3.

All that aside, I just go straight to the desktop like always; just like I did in Windows 7. I use the Start screen exactly as I did the Start menu: press Windows key, search for something, launch (That might sound familiar to Spotlight users on OS X too).


Yeah, but it's also one more key press to get to the desktop quickly. I know it's only a few seconds and a key press more, but it's unnecessary for a desktop/laptop.

When I first tried it, it didn't work for Section 8 Prejudice or GTA IV. Couldn't play S8 online because GFWL never popped up or worked and and I couldn't play GTA IV because it would keep starting me over because it couldn't find my profile.

And I used the Start screen as I did with the Start menu as well, except there were extra mouse clicks just to switch between apps and settings. That's rather annoying for someone like me.

Jab said:
It's a menu only as cluttered as you make it.


Yeah, and it sucks that programs automatically add icons to the Start screen when you first install them. Of course you can clean it up, but that's a tedious task and why should anyone have to do that.
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That's fair, although it takes seconds to right click all the things you don't want, then clicking remove from start.

Try redownloading GFWL. I know firsthand that it works (well, as much as it did before).

Win8's definitely not perfect, but I do think it's a step in the right direction. It for sure suits my personal desires.
Sheep-330px
- The window decoration is horrible and ugly unless you make it white. Then it's kind of OK. But they've done this horrible merging of the new/old interfaces (e.g. with the "open with..." dialogs, which are the worst things ever).
- Metro is clearly designed for touch screens, they've ignored mouse/keyboard and broken attempts by power users to bypass it, whilst acknowledging that the desktop interface is better for power users.
- The start screen is full screen. They've managed to turn something which barely takes up a 9th of your screen, with 26 useful links in it and an entire menu to something which takes up the whole screen, yet somehow has -less- links than that and which is significantly less useful by default (no file explorer links, control panel...). Also they decided to categorise search, so it's a bit more annoying to get to control panel applets (power options, etc).

It's bad on desktops. I can imagine it'd be alright on tablets, and that's all it is - their barge in to tablet space. Honestly pretty much the only thing that's been improved for the desktop is task manager. It's very nice. Also the new system sounds are nice. ...
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I've had no issues with it that I can recall. Going from 7 to 8 is definitely a big change and will present some growing pains, but once I figured things out I came out of the experience feeling positive.

The UI is definitely geared toward touch devices but for me it still works fine. Big ups for Microsoft making the UI between the stock apps feel very consistent. I use the Start menu just to start a program up. Sure it's full screen but I only see it for a second or two. Doesn't bother me none.

I actually really like the UI in general, which is something I thought I'd never say about a Microsoft product.
Ml_noname
Devo said:
I actually really like the UI in general, which is something I thought I'd never say about a Microsoft product.

I've not heard any extreme hate or dislike of the Metro UI since it was introduced in Windows Phone 7 (except maybe on Xbox?). I guess it's hip to be square.
Cute_turtle
Doesn't it play Xbox360 games or something? I saw a fellow student who brought their windows8 to school and saw the Xbox360 logo on it. That alone makes it worth buying if you're too cheap to get a good gaming PC haha.
Desert_survivalist
It can't play 360 games, but it has a games app for Metro that links to your Live account and shows your activities and games on it like it would on an actual 360. Windows 8 is way fast, especially with start up. Metro is no big deal. You use it or you don't. The desktop is always there to use. I installed this thing (though I forgot what it was called), that adds the start menu to the desktop taskbar and skips the Metro screen on log-in.